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Daiwa Prorex Live Bait Shad: weighting a big shad without killing its action

September 26, 2026·8 min read
Daiwa Prorex Live Bait Shad, side view
Daiwa Prorex Live Bait Shad — illustrative photo.
BrandDaiwa
ModelProrex Live Bait Shad
TypeBulky soft shad
Target speciesPike
Size12 to 20 cm depending on size
Weightvariable, jig head from 10 to 40 g depending on size and depth
Running depth1 to 8 m, on a bottom-hugging or mid-water retrieve
Retrieve speedslow, steady and straight just off the bottom
Actionthick body that rolls, wide paddle that beats from the slowest speeds, big water displacement
Recommended riground or wide-gap jig head, rear stinger, titanium or 0.70-0.90 mm fluorocarbon leader
Go-to colorsnatural roach and perch in clear water, white, firetiger or chartreuse in coloured water

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You rig a sixteen-centimetre shad to go and find a big pike. You want to fish at five metres, so you pick a thirty-five gram head to "hold bottom". You retrieve, you feel the lead grinding, all is well.

Except your lure is not swimming. It is being dragged along the bottom, nose down, body rigid, paddle barely stirred by the movement. You are fishing with a weighted lump of plastic, not with a shad.

This is the most common and the most invisible problem in big-soft-plastic pike fishing. A bulky shad needs to be underweighted, not overweighted, because its entire value lies in the volume of water it moves while swimming slowly — and a lure that no longer swims no longer moves anything.

The water it moves is the signal

A pike does not detect your prey the same way depending on visibility.

In clear water, it sees. Silhouette, flash and colour count. In coloured water, in water stained by rain, in late autumn when turbidity rises, sight only reaches one or two metres. The fish then switches to its lateral line and detects pressure variations.

That is where a thick shad gains on a slim one. A massive body with a wide cross-section and a broad paddle pushes a quantity of water that a slender profile simply cannot produce. A pike sitting four metres off the lure's path feels it before it sees it, and it has time to get into position.

Two consequences for the fishing:

The weighting trap

Here is the calculation that fixes most problems. The question is not "what weight will hold bottom" but "what is the minimum weight that reaches my target layer at the speed I want to fish".

Lure size Target depth Jig head
12 cm 1 to 3 m 10 to 15 g
12 cm 3 to 6 m 15 to 21 g
15 cm 1 to 3 m 15 to 21 g
15 cm 3 to 6 m 21 to 28 g
18-20 cm 3 to 6 m 28 to 35 g
18-20 cm 6 to 8 m, or current 35 to 45 g

Two checks to make on the water, every time:

The edge test. Before fishing seriously, run the lure past two metres from you, at the speed you intend to use, and watch it. If the paddle is not beating firmly and the body is not rolling, your head is too heavy. Drop a notch.

The trim test. The lure has to swim level, not nose down at forty-five degrees. A nose-down attitude means either too heavy a head or a badly threaded lure — the second case is very common and takes thirty seconds to correct.

On the water: when you need to go deeper, do not reach for a heavier head first. Start by casting further and counting more seconds of drop. A lure cast forty metres and sunk for ten seconds reaches the same layer as a lure cast twenty metres with ten extra grams — and that one is still swimming properly. You only go up in weight once that margin is used up.

The retrieve: the bottom-hugging slow roll

  1. Cast and count the drop, on a semi-tight line. Note the number at which the lure touches bottom: that is your reference for the whole spot.
  2. Wait a second of solid contact, then start a slow, steady straight retrieve.
  3. Look for intermittent contact: the lead should touch bottom every five to ten seconds, not permanently. If you are grinding non-stop, speed up slightly or lighten. If you never touch, slow down.
  4. Mark a two-second stop every ten to fifteen turns of the handle. The lure drops back and tips over, and that is a powerful trigger on a sitting pike.
  5. Do not set immediately on a soft take. Let the fish turn, regain contact, then set firmly with a sideways sweep.

One variation worth testing in midwinter: the same retrieve but at mid-water, never touching bottom. Cold-water pike often hold suspended above the holes rather than glued to the substrate, and a purely bottom-hugging retrieve misses them completely.

Hooks and leader

On a lure this size, the hooking arrangement is not optional.

The head hook must be wide and strong in the wire, with enough gap to clear the lure's back. A hook too small on a thick body will not penetrate.

The rear stinger is necessary from fifteen centimetres upwards. Pike often attack across or from behind, and a lure with no rear hook will bring you back tooth marks, not fish. The stinger rig for pike describes how to fit one and the wire length to respect.

The leader: titanium, or 0.70 to 0.90 mm fluorocarbon. On this lure size and this fish, there is no sensible compromise. Main line of 0.25 to 0.35 mm braid, and a rod able to handle a fifty to eighty gram setup.

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Where it takes over, where it is too much

Its window is clear:

Conversely, it is too much in very clear, calm water on pressured pike, where a bulky slow-swimming lure looks suspect and produces more follows than attacks. It is also poorly suited to dense weed — the jig head collects everything — and to fine fishing in shallow margins, where even its lightest head is already too heavy.

Live Bait Shad or a rigged swimbait

A Westin Percy the Perch or an equivalent swimbait on its factory harness plays on realism and precision of passage: you run along a structure, you work three metres of margin, you rely on silhouette.

The Live Bait Shad plays in another register: you cover depth and volume of water, you match the weight to the layer, and you rely on displacement rather than silhouette. It is also far more forgiving — you can replace it for the price of a soft plastic when a pike has destroyed it, which is no small thing when you fish flooded timber.

If you want still more volume and a very deep profile, the Fox Rage Big Eye Pro Shad XXL pushes the logic further, at the cost of an even slower action. Our guide to choosing a pike lure helps you decide by season and by water. And if you are unsure what weight to fit when you get to the bank, CarnaFish analyses a photo of the spot and gives you an answer.

Key takeaways

FAQ

What jig head weight for a 15 cm shad?

From 15 to 21 g down to three metres, 21 to 28 g between three and six metres. Always take the lightest weight that reaches the target layer: beyond that, the lure is dragged instead of swimming and loses the water displacement that makes it worth using.

How do I know if my shad is overweighted?

Run it past two metres from you at your fishing speed and watch it. If it swims nose down, if the paddle beats weakly or if the body does not roll, drop a notch in head weight. A nose-down attitude can also come from a lure badly threaded on the shank.

Do I have to touch bottom constantly?

No. Look for intermittent contact, roughly every five to ten seconds. Grinding continuously slows the lure, damages the paddle and snags. If you never touch, slow down slightly before adding weight.

Is the stinger essential?

From fifteen centimetres, yes. Pike frequently attack across or from behind, and a lure hooked only at the head will bring you tooth marks and no fish. Allow a short wire so the stinger stays flat against the flank.

Does it work in winter?

Yes, it is one of its best periods, provided you slow right down and test mid-water. Cold-water pike often hold suspended above the holes rather than glued to the bottom, and a purely bottom-hugging retrieve misses them.

When is a realistic swimbait the better choice?

In clear, calm water, on pressured pike or fish sitting along a precise structure. The big shad plays on volume and on the depth covered, the realistic swimbait on silhouette and precision of passage.

The full pike lure guideSeason-by-season strategy: which family of lure, when, and why.

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